What Do Community, Competition, Jesus and Spider-Man Have in Common?
Two guests: Business Builders founder Jay Owen and Digitopia CEO Frank Cowell on community among agency owners, why competitors are worth knowing, and the responsibility that comes with running a business.
On this episode
Jay Owen
Founder and CEO, Business Builders
Helps entrepreneurs and agency owners grow their businesses through coaching, marketing and development services.
“Be in community with other agency owners and leaders and entrepreneurs”businessbldrs.com
Frank Cowell
CEO, Digitopia
Speaker, best-selling author and CEO at Digitopia, a revenue operations firm in the San Diego area. 20 years of digital marketing experience working with executive leadership.
Hosted by Tim Burke and Marcus Murphy.
This is season 3 of Agency Talk, released September 2022. Watch the full conversation above, or on the Agency Talk playlist on YouTube.
About Agency Talk
Agency Talk ran from October 2021 to October 2022: three seasons of conversations with agency owners, operators and advisors about scaling profitably, hosted by Tim Burke and Marcus Murphy. Every episode is on the Agency Talk hub.









